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Vedic Comet

A friend of the Tusk sent me a fascinating website, The Meaning of the Vedas, stating the hypothesis of Mr. Ravindra Vasudeo Godbole that the origin of the ancient Vedic oral literature of India and Pakistan was the trauma of repeated bombardments from the Taurid cometary debris stream (so well described by Bill Napier and blogged here on the Tusk). To properly critique the argument, one would have to be Vedic scholar, which Godbole clearly is — and I am not. But from the peanut galley it sure appears to be a well considered proposition.

From The Meaning of the Vedas:

STATEMENT OF HYPOTHESIS

1.            The hypothesis is based on the theory of coherent Catastrophism put forth by astronomers M/s. Victor Clube, Bill Napier, and David Asher.

2.            The theory states that a large comet settled in the inner solar system, some 20,000 years ago, causing last mini ice age.

3.            This comet disintegrated around 7000 B.C. It caused some catastrophic events on Earth, like crater formation, trenching and flooding due to Tsunami waves.

4.            As a result of intense heat generated during meteoric impacts, natural glass was formed on the surface of earth.

5.            A bright comet was then visible from earth. The next four millennia were a period of celestial peace and human cultural development from Stone Age to Bronze Age.

6.            This comet further disintegrated around 3100 B.C.  A series of 5 to 7 bright comets were visible in the sky for a period of few centuries.  This disintegration also resulted in creation of a belt of asteroids and dust.  This belt is known as Taurids and is still the cause of increased meteor falls in the first half of the month of November when earth intersects the Taurids orbit.

7.            The orbit of Taurids is in a 7:2 resonance with planet Jupiter.  The gravitational effects of this massive planet cause this orbit to rotate slowly around its own axis.

8.            Because of this orbital precession, Taurids directly intersect earth’s orbit after a period of around 2500 years.  This is a period of destruction due to bombardment of meteors of various sizes and in different locations on earth.

9.            According to the astronomers mentioned above, two such periods were around the years 2000 B.C. and 500 A.D.  They have predicted that the next episode is likely to occur around the year 3000 A.D.

10.          Comet Encke-P2 is the largest remnant of this celestial turmoil and is still visible through a powerful telescope.  It was visible to the naked eye till the end of 18th century.  This comet completes its rotation around the Sun in 3.3 years.

11.          The deductions mentioned above are based on actual observations, mathematical calculations and computer modeling. The researchers are qualified scientists and their papers are published in journals of repute.

12.          For the purpose of present hypothesis, the theory put forth by these astronomers is taken to be true at its face value.

The record of this celestial turmoil is available to us in different forms, but has not been looked at with the correct perspective.  Following are some of the important sources.

  • Descriptions in Vedic Literature

1.            Meteor showers, most likely to be seasonal.

2.            Bright, comet like objects streaking across the sky.

3.            Deification of these astral bodies.

4.            Abject terror of these deities

5.            Hymns and songs to pacify these deities.

6.            Prayers for self protection and destruction of enemies.

7.            Rituals and legends to keep these memories alive.

  • Abnormal geological formations in study areas

1.            Formation of Dhayya ridge in planes of Punjab.

2.            Presence of a large number of salt playas and salt water lakes like   Sambhar and Didwana in deserts of Rajasthan.

3.            Newly emerging evidence of presence of impact craters in the region extending from Saurashtra to Kasmir.

4.            Disappearance of mighty Saraswati River and changed courses of rivers Yamuna and Sutlej.

  • Archaeological evidence available mainly from Indus culture sites

1.            Evidence of destruction at Harappa.

2.            Faience objects, vitreous paste and talcose faience.

3.            A special type of pottery called gray-ware.

4.             Stones with high specific gravity (more than 2.8)

5.            Corbelled water drains found at Mohenjodaro and Harappa.

6.            Burial pottery found at Harappa.

  • E.P. Grondine

    Congratulations.

    Impact features in India are not well known elsewhere, and their relation to the development of Indian religion has not been examined in depth previously.

    I wonder what the Indian reaction will be?

  • Hello for all

    Please, see also the Bob Kobres websites.

    http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/bronze.html

    regardes
    pierson

  • Carol Smith

    I guess you had an email from Leroy. He sent the same to me. Actually, we had a post on this at the SIS web site a few months ago when the author of the book/ study contacted us directly. Anyone wish to comment on the author’s explanation of Soma?

  • Hello for all

    The Leroy 9 Oct 2011 SIS link
    http://www.sis-group.org.uk/news/leroy.htm

    regards
    pierson

  • Hello for all

    Could any toxic compound resulting from the meteoritic process soak impactites providing the effects of Soma?

    https://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/palaeometeorstream/comet-s-chemical-composition

    regards
    pierson

  • carol

    You might be on to something here but does it have to be a toxic substance? Mike Baillie in his book, New Light on the Black Death, as well as various articles on the AD540 event, thought that comets could result in clouds of noxious gases. If so, why would it be venerated, as Soma? Why not a substance that provided a welcome nice taste or something that was involved in mind altering incidents – a sort of heavenly alcohol. There is of course the possibility that comets and meteors produced an ionisation of the atmosphere and that mind altering substances were sought out to re-enact that experience – which is where Soma with an origin in plants or fungi might come in. However, in the Veda book, above, Soma is actually prepared and its preparation is apparently described. Another thing to bear in mind is that if the Taurid complex had resulted in a number of incidents going back into the Pleistocene the idea of mind altering plants and fungi could have developed within the Paleolithic and was reinforced with each subsequent event. Its a bit of an anomaly, not just as far as conventional attitudes are concerned but the whole idea of catastrophic encounters. The peculiar thing is that Godbole says that a small electric charge was part of the preparation – why might this be?
    The book is actually very dense with lots of information to digest.

  • Hello Carol and all

    Yes, it is an excellent book, it is good to make us think.

    Yes, I also believe that the megafauna fossils found in palaeolagoons (I’m investigating), were poisoned by substances of meteoritic process. They did not die of thirst, as many researchers believe.
    http://sites.google.com/site/cosmopier/impact-craters/end-pleistocene-palaeolagoons

    It is really hard to say, but many substances are toxic, depending on the dose, they are poisons. They can kill, can cripple, can also cause hallucinogenic effects, not necessarily poisonous. Depending on the quantity, they can go crazy once the user. These are some of the effects of drugs (toxic) from long use, alcohol included.

    Drugs (toxic) are bad ones, for all its users thus probably are not, at least in the short term option, say. The drugs taste is not important to the user, but the effects.

    I do not put a matter of choice but of possibility. The discussion is not a matter of choice only. I am not advocating anything, is a hypothetical question.

    But the question is:

    Could some toxic substances during the meteorite process be synthesized and polluted soils, waters, rocks, and cause (drugs) hallucinations, the Soma effects?

    regards
    pierson